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400 Years of Rose Family History

22 Jan

Hey Rose cousins! William Rose, Colonial Virginia, 1650. That’s where it all started.

I’m fleshing out the details, but here’s a rundown on our Rose pedigree, which started on 211 acres on the fork of Gray’s Creek across the James River from Jamestown.

Generation 1: William Rose was born about 1622 in England or Scotland. He married Anne, we don’t know her last name, and they came to Virginia about 1650.

Generation 2: William Rose was born about 1655 in the newly formed Surry County, Virginia. He married Lucy Corker Jordan, a widow with a young daughter.

Lucy takes us back a couple of decades. Her father was Captain William Corker and his father, John Corker was born in 1601. He arrived in Jamestown on the Warwick in 1621.

But back to the Roses.

Generation 3: John Rose was born about 1696 in Virginia, probably Surry County. He married Abigail Hicks in 1728.

Generation 4: William Rose (another one!) was born in 1729 in Surry County, Virginia.  He married Frances, last name unknown.

Generation 5: Samuel Rose is where we start to wander out of Virginia after over 100 years in the vicinity of the James River. Samuel Rose was born about 1755 in Virginia, his wife was Rhoda. When the revolution rolled around Samuel signed up as a patriot in Guilford County, NC. The Guilford County Court House was the site of a significant battle in 1781.

Generation 6: Francis Rose was born in 1775, I think in Virginia. He married Elizabeth “Betsey” Ford. She was born in North Carolina. Francis and Betsey lived in Buncombe County, NC and later they moved over the mountains to McMinn and Monroe Counties Tennessee.

Generation 7: William Rose was born in Buncombe County, NC in 1806. William was one of a passel of kids and he and his brothers would take their generation to the edge of the frontier as it continued to move west through the decades of the 19th Century. William married Elizabeth, last name unknown.

William and Elizabeth crossed over the state of Tennessee and started their family in Chilcot County, Arkansas on the Mississippi River.  After a few years of river living they moved catty-cornered across the state of Arkansas to Benton County in the northwest corner. There they lived near some of William’s brothers and then as Texas was about to become a state they made some trips to Texas, eventually moving there.

Generation 8: David Rose was born in Chilcot County, Arkansas in 1833. His younger siblings were born in Benton County, Arkansas, and he was 17 when his baby sister was born in 1847 in Van Zandt County Texas.  His dad, William Rose, was one of the founders of the county.

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John Henry Rose, born 1860, Shelby County, Texas.

David married Mary Lucinda Wright and they started a family in the Owlet Green community of Van Zandt County. In 1860 John Henry Rose was born and in 1861 David and his younger brother James signed up with the Texas Militia to fight in the Civil War. James was married and had a son before he went off to war. He died in Mississippi in 1864.

Generation 9: John Henry Rose was born 1860 in Shelby County, TX. He married Sally Ida Lake “Mittie” Bryant, a southern belle from southern Tennessee. He brought his family to Oklahoma before statehood first to Chickasaw Territory near Ardmore. Unfortunately the area was full of outlaws and it wasn’t long before the family moved further north to Cleveland County to the community of Buckhorn, east and south of Lexington.

Generation 10: William “Will” Thomas Rose, my great grandpa was born in Cleburne, Johnson County Texas in 1885. He was probably about 20 when his family arrived in Cleveland County and in 1907, the year of Oklahoma statehood he married Bessie Jane Belew, newly arrived from Tennessee. Their first child was born in 1908, John Wesley “Wes” Rose, and in 1909 my grandpa, Thomas Edwin Rose was born. Sadly Bessie died two months later.

Bessie Jane Belew on AmericanSage

Will and Wes moved home to live with his parents, and baby Ed was cared for by his Grandma and Grandpa Belew who lived close by. In 1910 Will married Lizzie Black. The family was reunited and soon joined by more kids.

Rose-Will & Lizzie Family

Will and Lizzy Rose, about 1919. The kids are: John Wesley, b. 1908 (center back); Ed, b. 1909 (far right); James Earldon, b. 1911 (center); the girls are Dorothy, b. 1913; and Wanda, b. 1916,

Generation 11: Thomas Edwin “Ed” Rose was born in Cleveland County in 1909. He married Lela Mae Scott in 1928. He operated heavy machinery and worked road construction much of his life. He and grandma also owned a couple of grocery stores when he was unable to do that. He managed to stay employed, although meagerly, during the Great Depression. He went to where the work was with a job in Illinois, and other jobs all over the state of Oklahoma. Ed and Lela had two kids: Darlene and Sonny. The family was very close to Ed’s brother Wes, and his wife Ruby who had no children. When World War II arrived Wes was drafted and sent to England to prepare for the Invasion in June 1943. Fortunately he didn’t cross with the first wave, but arrived in France with the last wave nearly two weeks later. He fought across France, was injured once and spent some time in a hospital then sent back to battle. In October 1943 he was lost behind enemy lines for three weeks. Letters to Europe were returned and the family got the word he was Missing in Action. He eventually turned up, promising to tell all about it when he got home.  That cold November of 1943 things were hot and heavy across France, Belgium and Germany and plans were underway for the Battle of the Bulge. Three days later Pvt. John Wesley Rose was Killed in Action.

Generation 12: Darlene Nevell Rose, b. 1932; and Sonny Wayne Rose, b. 1936.

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The Ed Rose Family, 1940. Sonny, Darlene, Lela and Ed.

Generation 13: Then there’s us:  Janet, Jimmy and David Miller; Tina, Brent and Lori Rose.

Generation 14: How many kids do we have?

Generation 15: Underway, but incomplete: Jayce, Jett, Rylan, Bodin, Hadden, Owen, Mia, Riley and Avery.

So that’s it. Over 400 years of family history whittled down to about a thousand words.

There’s way more to tell about our early ancestors, they were tobacco farmers, plantation owners, Indian fighters, slave owners, patriot soldiers, frontiersmen, pioneers, and settlers. They helped establish new settlements in Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, Texas and Oklahoma, always moving to a new area shortly after—and sometimes before—it was available for settlement.

So any comments?  What do you think of our ancestors? They seem like pretty gutsy people to me. Here’s hoping I can find the primary documentation to validate all this.

Jan

Here are links to some of my Rose research.

UPDATE: April 2018 

The following links aren’t going anywhere now.  The information may be on another website, or maybe not.  Guess I need to go into my files, collect all the appropriate documents  and write my own Rose history.

http://familygenes.net/rose.htm
http://lawrencefamhis.com/rose-o/index.htm
http://www.genealogyhomes.com/genealogy/rosefamily.html
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vabrunsw/deeds.htm

It’s true, once something is published to the internet it’s out there forever.  But, it’s not very helpful if the link is broken or the website isn’t maintained.  So while these links had information that furthered my research, the only way I can be sure of it in the long run, is if I follow up on my own by collecting the documents that confirm it.

Jan
April 12, 2018

 

 
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31 responses to “400 Years of Rose Family History

  1. J. Newell

    March 5, 2014 at 11:24 am

    Hello,

    We have a historical connection through Zachariah Belew, Sr. Would it be possible to send a message to you through email?

    Thanks,
    J. Newell

     
    • Jan

      March 5, 2014 at 1:38 pm

      Yes!
      I’ll send you an email.
      Jan

       
  2. Edeyrose

    February 8, 2016 at 11:34 pm

    my great great gran dad was William Thomas Rose a different rose

     
  3. Beth Rose

    May 3, 2016 at 9:29 pm

    My rose family history follows the same moves to the west and ends up in Hartley county Texas….great grandmother Roses ranch still in the family……Names are usualy…John,Blane,Howard,Hugh,Raymond,David,Elizabeth…etc….and also married into the Miller family……We must share the same roots….Nairn Scotland. …thank you for the info…sincerely….Gloria Beth Rose

     
    • Jan

      May 4, 2016 at 11:07 pm

      Hi Beth – Do you know where your Roses came from before Texas? I know there were a bunch of Rose brothers that came through Tennessee, then to Arkansas and then Texas. My 2x (?) great grandpa, David Rose, had a brother James, who had a son and then died in the Civil War. His descendants did the research to help me find my way back to North Carolina and before that. Did your line come from Scotland? I don’t know exactly how or when my Roses came to America. I’d love to hear any details you may have.
      Jan

       
      • Joletta Rose

        March 7, 2019 at 11:24 am

        My husband is a direct decendant from Kindred Rose of Springfield Mo. I would love to trade information.

         
  4. Celeste Currie

    July 13, 2017 at 6:15 am

    Rose was the maiden name of my next door neighbor in Knoxville,Tennnessee. I visited the farm of her father a couple of times and still am blessed by those memories. Her name was Bonnie and her husband was Mitchell Moor.

     
    • Jan

      July 13, 2017 at 8:32 am

      Hmmmm… I wonder if she’s a cousin?
      Thanks for reading and getting in touch.
      Jan

       
  5. Fran Whiteman

    January 23, 2018 at 1:33 pm

    I decend from John Johnson Rose, son of Samuel Rose 1754-1837

     
    • Jan

      January 23, 2018 at 1:59 pm

      Hey, Cousin!
      Samuel Rose is my 6th great grandfather. So what does that make us, in the neighborhood of 6th cousins? Since John Johnson Rose’s mother is Lucritia Johnson, and I descend from Francis Rose, son of Rhoda, his first wife, that makes us half-cousins I guess.
      Let me know if you’ve got an inside track on any early day history of the Roses.
      Thanks so much for reading!
      Jan

       
  6. Fred Rose

    March 8, 2018 at 5:18 pm

    My William Rose came from Nash County NC,, the son of Amos Rose. So there are hundreds of William Rose’s. The one from Nash County settled in Choctaw County MS in 1836 or so. and was married to Sarah, one of their Children, Henry Calvin Rose was born in 1848 in Mississippi near Gore Springs and he settled in Ms near Duck Hill, His second Son, Henry Eugene was my grandfather and is buried in Duck Hill.. Henry Calvin married Mary Julia Kent from around Alva, MS. They also had a son named William,, and he is buried in Kilmichael MS.. William Rose of Surry Co VA was my first known Rose brought over from England as a Headright to John Knott.. I am the 7th Generation Grandson of William Rose of Surry…

     
    • Jan

      March 9, 2018 at 1:45 pm

      Fred,
      You’re right about all the WIlliams. There’s a William in almost every Rose generation in my tree. I wish I knew more about the first one that came over, but that’s blurry. One thing I read said England. Another said Ireland, and then he stayed in England for awhile before he came over… that’s all heresay. I haven’t dug into it myself. Maybe one of these days.
      Thanks for stopping by and commenting.
      Jan

       
      • Fred Rose

        April 27, 2018 at 5:06 pm

        The best I can tell Jan is England near Scotland..was probably a member of the invading army in 1066 with William the Conqerour

         
    • Fred Rose

      April 27, 2018 at 5:02 pm

      I had some great Uncles that went on to Arkansas and Texas..from two different generations.. a James Hilliard Rose to Helena, Arkansas and another James Hilliard Rose of an older generation that lived and is buried in Bell County Texas.. In fact both James Hilliard’s married into the Kent family,, although the one that moved to Texas lost his connection to the Kent family in Mississippi and his first wife was buried in Hayes Creek, Ms and his second wife was a Moore that is buried with James in Texas. My list is so long it goes back to James City Va in 1650 when William Rose came to Surry County Area as mentioned in my March 8th post.. My grandpa Henry Eugene married a KING from Carroll County MS and she descended from Chief Moshulatubbee of the Choctaw Nation, he died of smallpox on the Trail of Tears around 1838…

       
      • Jan

        April 28, 2018 at 3:16 am

        Sounds like our two lines followed some of the same routes west. What I know for “pretty sure” the trail of my Roses went from Virginia to North Carolina, to Tennessee, then to Arkansas and Texas and finally to Oklahoma. I did some looking around the first William I know of in Virginia before the Revolutionary War. Prior to that I haven’t seen enough documents to be sure about anything. Have you had your DNA done? We might be able to confirm a match that way.
        Jan

         
  7. Edward Rose

    April 12, 2018 at 9:50 am

    I don’t see any of my Roses in your great research! The earliest Rose I’m able to identify in our Rose tree is Edward Rose born about 1755 in Hyde County NC.

     
    • Jan

      April 12, 2018 at 3:04 pm

      Hi Edward –
      There were a few generations with a LOT of kids, which means there are a lot of Rose cousins who haven’t been researched. If we’re related, could be through one of those lines. I can’t take credit for most of this research. My mom took the Rose line back to her 2x great grandpa, David Rose born in 1933 in Arkansas. Then descendants of David’s brother James contacted me and pointed me toward a Rose family history which provided more of the back story.
      By the way, I just now clicked on the resource links at the end of the post and more than half of them go nowhere. I need to check into that.
      Thanks for getting in touch!
      Jan

       
  8. Sunny Rose

    May 14, 2018 at 2:29 pm

    I am a Rose daughter, we also have traced our line back to William Rose, married to Anne Wright, who emigrated in the 1650s from England to Surry, VA. He was the son of William Rose and Agnes Chisholm, she was a Scot. My family ancestors traveled over the Cumberland Road (the first federal highway authorized by the US Congress) to Illinois and also the Wilderness Road, built by Daniel Boone. This was a spectacular route through the mountains to Kentucky. Our branch of the Rose line is mainly in Illinois and Indiana, but we have three generations in Boston, where our maternal roots are deep. I think it’s interesting that one of my ancestors, W.T.J. Rose went to Los Angeles before 1900. I have relatives who fought on both sides of the civil war. I believe I may be cousins with some respondents, as we do not have direct relatives in either Texas or Mississippi. There are many generations of Rose sons, brothers who have fanned out in different directions.

     
    • Jan

      July 1, 2018 at 11:27 pm

      Hi Sunny ~
      I’m so sorry to take so long to get back to you. I know very little about my earliest William Rose. I have that he was born in 1729 in Surry County, Virginia. I don’t have any information about his parents, or any siblings or uncles. If we are part of the same family, it would have been his 1-2-3x great grandfather who came from England. There were probably a couple of dozen siblings along the way who could have gone west and north. Have your had your DNA done? If so, we might be able to determine if we are part of the same Rose line. Let me know and we can see if there is a match.
      Thanks for writing and I promise to reply in a more timely manner in the future. It would be nice to meet another cousin, especially since your Rose research goes much further back than mine does.
      Jan

       
  9. Floyd D Rose

    July 1, 2018 at 9:38 am

    Hello,

    This conversation is somewhat awkward. As I have viewed your family tree and history, I was wondering did the Rose patriarchs included Blacks in the family tree. During the dark ages of in early America history, especially in VA, unfortunately, there were many Blacks who had worked for Whites. Was this the rule for the Rose family, and because of ownership by Whites, was the Rose name transferred to Blacks for protection and ownership.

    This is the 21st Century and the past is history, the present is now, and the future is developing to create a perfect “Rose”.

     
    • Jan

      July 1, 2018 at 11:44 pm

      Thanks for reading and getting in touch with me. I’m sorry to say I don’t have much information about my Virginia Roses during the Colonial years. I haven’t come across any records of them owning slaves, but that may just be information I haven’t come across yet. If so, there’s a good possibility some of them eventually came to use the Rose name. I’m not actively researching my family tree right now but I hope to make time to get involved with it again before long. That is definitely something I’d like to find out more about when I get back into this thing.
      Thanks again for writing and I’ll update this information when I find out more about my Rose family line.
      Jan

       
  10. Darlene Athey Hill

    July 18, 2018 at 11:12 pm

    Hi Jan, you mention DNA. I am hoping you (or your parent with the Rose descent) has done an autosomal DNA test and we can compare to see if we share any DNA. My Stroud ancestor married (supposedly) a Margaret Rose, and some say his mother was a Hannah Rose. The Strouds and Roses lived near one another and served as witnesses for one another. I think the only way to prove a Rose ancestor for me will be through DNA. I’m a genetic genealogist, so if I can locate some people with a good paper trail back to the Rose family of Surry, VA, and get a triangulated group, I may be able to finally prove my connection. Look forward to discussing with you.

     
    • Jan

      July 19, 2018 at 10:38 pm

      Hi Darlene –
      My brother and I both have our DNA results. Mine are with Ancestry.com and his are with 23andme. And my mom, Darlene Rose Miller, should receive her results from Ancestry.com any day now. Her brother is the oldest Rose male in our family and I’m not sure if he’s had his DNA tested or not.
      Our personal family research goes back to David Rose who was born in Arkansas in the 1830s. He’s my 3x great grandpa. Beyond that, I’ve piggybacked on to research done by descendants of David Rose’s brother, James and other Rose family histories that match what I know. I would have to look at all the research to see how good my paper trail is.
      I will email you and we can see what else we can learn. Thanks so much for writing.
      Jan

       
    • Edward Rose

      October 1, 2020 at 9:38 pm

      Darlene, my paternal side of the family is Rose. As far as I can determine I am the only male in our family which has had a DNA test. Both paternal and maternal with Family tree and My Heritage.
      Let me know if you are interested in comparing the DNA test.
      Sincerely, Ed Rose

       
  11. Fred Rose

    September 5, 2018 at 6:08 pm

    Slaves,, I can remember only remember seeing one lady owning another lady described as a slave in the 1840 Census,, she got the slave thru inheritance.. hard times fell on the Roses from North Carolina to Mississippi, most were Sharecroppers and owned little to no land,, the brothers that went on to Arkansas and Texas faired better, they were lawyers and officers in the CSA and the US Army.. Col is the highest ranking one I remember of the older James Hilliard Rose that lived in Bell County Texas and all his family except his first wife and two of her 3 children are buried in Hayes Creek Cemetery in Montgomery County Ms..I have a very detailed geneology and have had my DNA DONE and matched on all 66 markers to be directly related to William of Surry County in Virginia..A lot of Roses settled in New England after William arrived in and around 1650 to work off his debt to John Knott. A researcher in Knoxville, Tn contacted me after I emailed a Lawrence, Paul. in the Knoxville area of Tennessee, my names added nearly 2000 names to his data base and those were documented as relatives of mine… The only Rose, great uncle I never found the burial place for was John A. Rose,, the oldest born in the 1830’s and was the son of William and Sarah Creekmore Glover Rose..Nash County, North Carolina..there are still some Roses living in Nash County..and a town named Hilliard..

     
  12. Megan Rose

    October 2, 2018 at 7:46 am

    There’s land in southern Kentucky/northern Tennessee that was owned by the Roses. The cemetery Roses Creek is there.

     
  13. Fred Rose

    December 1, 2018 at 9:14 am

    I have had the DNA done and triangulated to include the first William Rose in Surry County Va and owning land near James City after he had earned his freedom from being a head right in 1650. these families spread, one group went the Kentucky Ohio route west and my group the North Carolina Tennessee Mississippi route, later on went into Arkansas and Texas.. Most stayed behind into Mississippi. The William that was the son of Amos Rose of North Carolina have lost graves.. I do feel sure William, the father of my Great Grandfather Henry Calvin is buried in the area of Grenada County.. Last I see any mention of him he lived near Gore Springs where two of his children were buried,, Zachariah and Sarah Rose Williams,, both in Providence Cemetery in Grenada County..Henry Calvin was buried in Duck Hill, James Hilliard and Sarah Moore Rose in Bell County Texas, and William (killed at Shiloh) buried unknown…John A Rose another son married a Mary and she is buried in Yalobusha county.. I have no knowledge of John A’s marker.. there are two other sisters at least,, one married a Sykes, one a McDonald Tribble,

     
  14. Anna Allegretto

    May 31, 2022 at 7:58 am

    Blessed to have stumbled on this website. My father died in 76 and his father before, his mother not too long after so I don’t have any information. Have met my cousins through FB but wanted to dig into our genes and see what I could find. Has been an interesting couple of months scouring on Ancestry.com and stumbling on to webpages like yours. Father is from Arkansas. Have traced back to TN, KY, NC and VA.

     
    • Jan

      June 1, 2022 at 7:07 pm

      Hello Anna ~
      Sounds like our Roses followed a similar path from the east coast. Can you share some names, dates or places so I can figure out where we might intersect? I hope to hear from you again!
      Jan

       
  15. Anna Allegretto

    June 1, 2022 at 8:53 pm

    Thank you for the quick response. My father was Clyde Rose from Arkansas (born 1933). His father was Frank Rose (born 1905) to Alonza (born 1868)(all Arkansas), son of Kindred Carter Rose (born 1923 in TN, passed in Arkansas in 1895) as near as I can tell. I believe Kindred was son of John (born 1792), son of Matthew. Have been going through Census and graves for a couple of months trying to put this jigsaw together. Hope we can figure out where we intersect. I have met cousins through FB, looking forward to meeting them in person some time soon and would love to be able to share our family tree. We lost our parents early in life (40s to 60s) and would like to know more,

     

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